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The DEI divide



The DEI divide

About Episode 

Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) is everywhere – it’s making headlines globally, sparking debate, and causing a major divide. While some organisations are doubling down on their DEI efforts, others are pulling back, even dismantling their programs entirely.  

 

In Australia, DEI is stronger than ever, embedded in workplaces and driving real business results. But with global resistance on the rise, what does this mean for the future of inclusive workplaces? 

 

In this episode, we’re joined by Dr. Judy Lundy a Leadership Specialist and Lecturer at Edith Cowan University, to unpack the state of DEI today. Is diversity alone enough? How do we move past performative efforts? And what role does emotional intelligence play in navigating this evolving landscape? 

 

Plus, learn how Atlassian and the Australian Tax Office (ATO) are leading the way with their DEI programs, making a real difference to their business and culture.  


In this episode, learn about:  

  

[01:37] Dr. Judy Lundy journey and passion for creating equitable workplaces and the positive momentum in DEI initiatives before political changes. 

  

[03:50] the commitment needed from business leaders and the benefits of DEI initiatives in attracting top talent, innovation and profitability.  

   

[09:30] why diversity alone isn't enough without an inclusive environment. 

   

[13:27] the scepticism towards DEI among some business leaders. 

   

[16:46] the future of DEI initiatives in Australia. 

  

[18:50] societal pushback against DEI in the United States and Europe and the implications. 

   

[21:03] the importance of emotional intelligence in DEI discussions. 

  

[24:43] the challenges of recognising and addressing unconscious biases in ourselves. 

  

[25:49] the essential elements for successful diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives. 

   

[29:01] the importance of securing leadership commitment at all levels for effective DEI programs. 

  

[30:17] the significance of both qualitative and quantitative measures in assessing DEI efforts. 

  

[32:52] the necessity of involving employees in DEI conversations and initiatives for better outcomes. 

  

[34:48] the role of psychological safety in fostering open discussions about DEI. 

  

  

[40:34] the role of continuous improvement and understanding in DEI practices. 

  

[42:43] the organisation who are demonstrating strong leadership in diversity and inclusion efforts. 

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About Judy Lundy

Dr Judy Lundy has a long career in the education, consulting and hospitality sectors and has taught in leading business schools in Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the Netherlands.  Her 20-plus years as a consultant, most recently with a Big Four firm, gave her opportunities to work across diverse sectors and develop a deep understanding of complex issues of workplace transformation. Dr Lundy is passionate about building adaptive, inclusive and thriving workplaces through developing inclusive leaders and workplace practices which maximise benefits for individuals and organisations. Her aspiration as a faculty member in the School of Business and Law is to help shape future leaders who will transform workplaces to meet the needs of increasingly diverse workforces. Judy’s main research interest is Diversity and Inclusion (D&I) and she was the lead researcher in the team that built the ECU D&I Capability Maturity Model. She has a DBA from University of Newcastle, an MBA (HRM) from University of New England and a Bachelor of Adult Education from the University of Canberra.

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